Conversations

Conversations

ABC

Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling. Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.

Radios: ABC Classic FM

Catégories: Society & Culture

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Philosopher and writer Eamon Evans on humanity's relentless and impossible pursuit of happiness through materialism, social media and self help, and why the kindest and best people have been 'crushed by life' a couple of times. Eamon started to think more deeply about happiness and contentment in his 20s, after a bout of serious depression. He realised that trying to be happy all the time was paradoxically making him miserable, and says that's true for most of us in this modern world. Eamon began to trace the history of human's infatuation with being happy. What he found was that the story of humanity was tied up with other pursuits like survival, honour, virtue and discipline until very recently. Only in the 20th century did people start wanting to stop to smell the roses all the time, but Eamon says a permanent state of happiness impossible and emotionally counterproductive. In fact, our obsession with being happy is actually making us sad, and on top of that, it's making us sad about the fact that we're sad—a concept called 'meta-unhappiness'. Eamon acknowledges misery can sometimes be pathological, and it's important that lifesaving progress has been made on creating spaces here people can speak out and seek help. But in terms of daily, natural feelings of struggle, he says it's better to accept these as a normal part of human life, and look upon seasons of misery as miracles that build character, make us kinder, and more interesting. The Importance of Being Miserable is published by Simon and Schuster. This episode of Conversations was produced by Meggie Morris, Executive Producer was Nicola Harrison. It explores advertising, marketing, smart phones, addiction, dopamine, serotonin, Gen Z, glimmers of hope, gratitude, being grateful, how to be grateful, gratitude journal, Buddhism, enlightenment, Mad Men, advertising, capitalism, mental health, mental wellbeing, self help books, religion, industrial revolution, greed, property, wants versus needs. To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

Épisodes précédents

  • 4782 - You're not alone or broken—the pursuit of happiness is making us miserable 
    Wed, 11 Feb 2026
  • 4781 - Encore: Judy Brewer on country love, deb balls and understanding autism 
    Tue, 10 Feb 2026
  • 4780 - A man, his gum trees, and his 'second education' 
    Mon, 09 Feb 2026
  • 4779 - Zadie Smith on 'being on the side of life' at 50 
    Fri, 06 Feb 2026
  • 4778 - Encore: Jessica's life as a GODA - the grandchild of deaf adults 
    Thu, 05 Feb 2026
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